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Gangs and Guns - are the numbers accurate?

9/2/2016

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The latest gang statistics the government is using to justify possible changes to firearms legislation make me feel uneasy. When it was put to Police Minister Judith Collins by Felix Marwick of ZB that I suspected the numbers may not be accurate, she replied she’d rather trust the police than a gang associate.
 
Leaving aside the unnecessary snip seemingly aimed at me, her faith may be misguided. The last time I felt uneasy about gang numbers the government was using, they turned out to be ludicrously wrong. She may want to ask her predecessor Anne Tolley about that.
 
Tolley claimed that 4,000 gang members were responsible for 34 percent of A and B class drug offences and 25 percent of homicide related offences over a three-month period. It turned out the numbers were actually four percent and zero percent respectively. The incorrect data were used as a basis for the much-touted ‘Gang Intelligence Centre’.
 
Now they are saying 44 percent of those 4,000 gang members have firearms related charges. Just instinctively this seems off the mark and given their history of wildly inaccurate data, I think we have a right to test if they are correct or not.
 
So, people in the media and opposition, please ask the Minister to provide the methodology of these firearms figures to test their veracity and to see if they accurately reflect reality.
 
If I were a betting man, I’d put a wager on them being misleading – but I’ll be happy to be proven wrong; after all it will be nice to regain some confidence in police data.

10 Comments
Tony Keast
9/2/2016 12:46:18 pm

When the firearms laws were being changed due to military style firearms I wrote to either the police or statistics department asking for some facts.
1 I wanted to know what the firearms crime rate was from non licenced owners compared to licenced firearm owners. That is crimes committed with a firearm. I was told quite abruptly that they don't keep those type of statistics. Convenient I thought.

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Mark Hadfield
23/2/2016 10:45:33 am

I do trust the police to do all sorts of things, but to come up with accurate data about politically sensitive topics like gangs and drugs? Not so much.

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I did not expect that the issue about Gangs and Guns is still this big. I thought that US is done with such issue and gangs are no longer a big problem in our society? But I was wrong. There were still people who are member of different gangs who have been fighting for what they believe are their right but still not a good thing. Well, it has to stop. Violence will never be an answer to address a certain issue. It never was and it will never be the answer these guys have been searching.

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